Tuesday, June 12, 2012

What do the following organizations have in common, once again?

The previous one is here.

The list is as follows: Arabikansojen ystävyysseura, Aseistakieltäytyjäliitto, Helsingin Sadankomitea, Helsingin yliopiston Sitoutumaton vasemmisto, Irakilaisten pakolaisten kv-federaation Suomen osasto, Irakin naisten yhdistys Suomessa, Irakin ja Iranin työväen kommunistisen puolueen Suomen osasto, Kommunistinen nuorisoliitto, Loviisan rauhanfoorumi, Lääkärin sosiaalinen vastuu, Maan ystävät, Naiset rauhan puolesta, Naisten kansainvälinen rauhan ja vapauden liitto - Suomen osasto, Pand - Taiteilijat rauhan puolesta, SKP, Sosialidemokraattiset nuoret, Sosialistiliitto, Suomen demokraattiset lakimiehet - DEMLA, Suomen kristillinen rauhanliike, Suomen rauhanliitto - YK-yhdistys ry, Suomen rauhanpuolustajat, Vasemmistonuoret, Vihreät nuoret ja opiskelijat.

These are the groups that have organized the big demonstration against the war in Iraq in Helsinki on 15.2.2003.

Now I decided to find out how they feel about the current carnage in Syria. Judging from their web pages, they don't give a flying fuck, except for Arabikansojen ystävyysseura who at least mentioned it. Not that really I blame them, I don't either, and I don't see what the Green party or the people who are against the conscription have to do with foreign wars anyway.


Anonymous said...

They all suck?

Anonymous said...

The answer is very simple. All those organizations were against the war that USA and the UK with their allies started against Iraq. They were not alone in this opposition, considering that vast majority of Finns were against the war (for instance, one poll in March that year showed 76% of Finns against the war). Considering that the US were talking about forming a "coalition of willing" against Iraq, it was important that a large number of Finns showed by public demonstrations, that they were not to be counted among such a coalition. As it turned out that the stated reasons for the war were actually lies, this was a well grounded position.

In case of the current situation in Syria, such compelling interest is lacking. Unlike USA and their coalition in 2003, no foreign power is trying to put Finland in a position where it looks like our country is supporting a military invasion to another independent country. Thus the answers are also less clear than back then. What would be a good way to reach a humane solution to the Syrian carnage?

You're correct, however, that the attacks aagainst civilians conducted by both sides of the Syrian uprising are unacceptable, and that it would be good if more organizations took their time to publish opinions about it. Maybe it'd be a good idea to contact them?